Don't Believe Everything You See on TV

31. dr kanodia is also not board certified (dr 90210, ashlee simpson's nose)

Posted at 7:38PM on Nov 15th 2007 by 90210gal

32. Hello, I am the COO of a medical practice (plastic surgeon). I have been telling people for a long time about the importance of dealing with a plastic surgeon that is "properly" boarded. Most any doctor can say he/she is a plastic surgeon, keep in mind there is only one "nationally accredited" board. My other half is the doctor and she is asked to correct other doctors mistakes regularly. I own www.boardcertifications.com .net etc. Please keep an eye on it as it will be the most informative site out there in a language everyone understands. you can go to www.asabeautiful.com to find out more.

Frank

Posted at 8:24PM on Nov 15th 2007 by frank

33. Wow...you should be careful what you say about Dr Rey because he did finish his residency in plastic surgery and is board eligible in plastic surgery. He did a 2 year residency in generaly surgery, followed by a 3 year residency in plastics at University of Tennessee and then a one year fellowhip at Harvard Medical School's hospital in plastics. He is a Board Eligible plastic and reconstructive surgeon - to say he did not finish his residency is pure defamation.

Posted at 8:25PM on Nov 15th 2007 by Taylor

34. Taylor, Maybe you have different information than I do, but if you look at his resume it says he did two years of general surgery, one of plastics, and a fellowship between 1995 and 1998. At the very most that adds up to 4 years. What you said he did would've taken six. The comment about not being board eligible comes from many plastic surgeons I know (and no, they are not jealous of him; they are all very successful in Beverly Hills.) If I am wrong, then I apologize, but I don't believe that I am wrong.

Posted at 8:38PM on Nov 15th 2007 by intheknow

35. Those dates are when he finished each program. He finished his general surgery residency in 1995. He FINISHED his plastic surgery residency in 1997 and completed his plastic surgery fellowship in 1998. He could not have gone to a fellowship at Harvard in plastic surgery had he not completed his residency in plastic surgery.

Posted at 8:50PM on Nov 15th 2007 by Taylor

36. Taylor, I'm guessing that since you have the exact knowledge of the dates that you must be someone VERY close to Dr. Rey. But, I still have one question. If he finished his fellowship in 1998, then why hasn't he taken his boards? Why is he not board certified? There are only two answers. 1) He hasn't had the time, which is a lame excuse since it's been eight years, or 2) He didn't pass them.

Posted at 9:16PM on Nov 15th 2007 by Intheknow

37. Thanks Frank...let me clarify for all about the practice of labeling oneself a plastic surgeon. There are no laws that stipulate that one must be trained as a plastic surgeon in order to practice or advertise as one. Hence you see plastic surgery practiced by many DMDs, ENTs, OBGYNs, etc who may or may not have proper training in the cosmetic surgery that they do. Note: To be fair, a dermatologist developed liposuction as a procedure. Is Dr Rey a bad doctor because he is not boarded? I don't know, he seems to have many satisfied patients. Do your homework potential patients. It will provide piece of mind. Oh, lawsuits mean little as this is a suit happy country. Some lawsuits have merit and other are settled to get the crazy to stop. Sit on a jury sometime and you will see. Buyer Be Ware!!!

Posted at 9:37PM on Nov 15th 2007 by norman

38. In regard to Dr. Rey's practice, BIG difference between Board Eligible and Board Certified. It's like hiring an attorney who has not passed the state Bar Exam.
It is highly misleading to talk in circles about one's great credentials and incredible education and INFER that he has been board certified. The bottom line:
Dr. 90210's Doctor Rey is not a Board Certified Plastic Surgeon.
(all show...just like his horrible Martial Arts skills LOL!!!)

Posted at 4:33PM on Nov 16th 2007 by intheknow2

39. All I have to say after watching TMZ just now is GREAT JOB!! Taylor, need I say any more?!!! Sorry for gloating, but if he was such a pretentious person, showing everyone how rich he is, how much is kitchen is going to cost, etc., maybe I wouldn't be enjoying it so much. And, telling everyone that martial arts helps dexterity? Come on, he is not even good at martial arts!!! I especially like how he got his blue belt in jiu-jitsu in just six months, when everyone else in the world trains for at least 1-1/2 years. As for the other martial arts, give me a break too!! His kicks are not any higher than the person's knees. This is a long time coming. Thanks TMZ.

Posted at 9:44PM on Nov 15th 2007 by Intheknow

40. just because they are board certified doesn't mean they have 'artistic ability'. you can't verify the before/after photos are actually theirs (photoshop) so don't make a decision based on those. talk to patients in the waiting room. make sure they have hospital privileges. i was told dr. kanodia doesn't.
listen to your intuition. donda kept changing her mind--i bet she know something was off.

Posted at 9:45PM on Nov 15th 2007 by 90210gal

41. I wanted to clarify the board eligibility business for most people out there. I am a "board eligible physician" (this means I am eligibile to sit for the board exam in my speciality) so I have some insight into this. When I pass my board exam, I will then be "board certified" in my speciality. These days, if you want to have credibility as a physician, you need to take written board exams (2 days of 8 hour exams each) and in some specialties oral board exams. These are very rigorous examinations and people study many months and years for each of them.

Most hospitals and medical groups would not hire a doctor or let a doctor operate in their hospital who is not board certified. But there are doctors in private practice who do not have hospital priviledges so they don't need to be "board certified" to recruit patients.

Some of the older docs aren't "board certified" because at the time they trained, there was no such thing but technically all the newer docs (who graduated in the last 20 years from residency) should have board certification.

Also, each speciality has its own board certification exam as does each subspecialty. As an example, let's say a pediatrician finishes training and takes the pediatrics board exam. Then they train in pediatric cardiology. The will then need to take a pediatric cardiology board exam.

Most docs who are not board certified either did not finish their residency, their residency program was not accredited or they did not pass their boards. Some doctors don't bother to take the board exams because they recruit a lot of patients into their private practice and don't see the need to get board certified. Beware of such docs!

Regardless, It is still legal to practice in the United States without board certification as long as you have a medical license from the state you are practicing in.

As for malpractice suits, those are important to consider as well but in the legal system we have in the US, most doctors, even if they are outstanding at what they do and experts in their fields, will have some lawsuits pending against them as anybody can sue a doctor for no good reason. But if a doctor has 5+ lawsuits that were settles or paid out, then this might be significant.

Posted at 10:23PM on Nov 15th 2007 by amy

42. IN GENERAL ... DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ ON TMZ!

Posted at 10:46PM on Nov 15th 2007 by jack54

43. This is just ridiculous, all this misinformation on who is and who is not board certified by all these folks posting misinformation. Are you secretly working for or a non ABPS surgeon?!?!?

Fact - any licensed doctor (M.D.) in the US can claim "board certified" plastic/cosmetic surgeon status legally. They may be board certified in something else and make seem like they are specialists or they are "certified" by one of dozens of "boards" not recognized by the ABMS.

Fact - dentists in over a dozen states can legally perform face lifts, nose jobs, etc. without further training. In fact, until the 1970's, the American Board of MaxioFacial surgeons (not M.D.'s) was known as the American Board of Oral Surgery.

Fact - thanks to lawyers, anyone who practices plastic/cosmetic surgery is by definition plastic/cosmetic surgeon. Try stating otherwise, and get sued.

Fact - there is only one and only one board recognized by the umbrella medical organization that oversees the 24 recognized medical specialties, the American Board of Medical Specialties (www.ABMS.org) with "plastic surgery" in its name. This one recognized board is the American Board of Plastic Surgery (www.abplsurg.org), which mandates 4 years of medical school, 3-5 years of General Surgery to become first a American Board of Surgery diplomate (Dr. Robert Rey is such), and then an additional 2-3 years of Plastic Surgery (most of the "dr 90210 docs are not) to become eligible. The ABPS graduates less than 200 diplomates a year, and they total less than 7,000 of the 800,000 licensed medical doctors in the US. No other "board" has the same rigorous requirements.

Would you want your baby delivered by a plastic surgeon? would you want your allegies treated by a plastic surgeon? If the answer is NO, why would you want these specialists trained in other medical specialties performing plastic surgery?

Lastly, even among the ABPS plastic surgeons, there good and bad ones. Forget lawsuits, a surgeon can have DEATHS on his/her record, license suspension(s), and criminal records, and still not lose either his board certification or his medical license.

Again, thanks to lawyers who are sue happy, the medical establishment overresponded by being overprotective in not revoking licenses and board certification

So what is the consumer supposed to do? Do you darn research!!! Look for cosmetic surgery adviser that can pull medical education and court records if you don't know how. You only have one life, and better make sure it is well taken care off.

Good luck people! I'd welcome anyone even remotely attempting to challenge my facts.

Posted at 11:34PM on Nov 15th 2007 by Lisa

44. Hey wait a minute! I never knew Rip Taylor was the poster boy for the American Board of Plastic Surgery!

Posted at 12:00PM on Nov 16th 2007 by Chuck Collins

45. Anon,

The American Society of Plastic Surgeons, http://www.plasticsurgery.org, is not a "board" that certifies plastic surgons. HOWEVER, in order to BE a member of that society, you DO have to be certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery. Below is an excerpt from http://www.plasticsurgery.org/about_asps/index.cfm. Notice what it says about ABPS CERTIFICATION. You are totally cluess and have no idea what you're talking about.

" Only members of the American Society of Plastic Surgeons may display the ASPS logo. This symbol of excellence in plastic surgery is what to look for when deciding on a surgeon. It tells you that you are choosing a physician who is certified by the American Board of Plastic Surgery or by the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada ¬ important credentials."

Posted at 10:07PM on Nov 16th 2007 by Nikki